You need to control your emotions first in order to debate. It doesn't matter if you have strong belief for what you're stating but you need to control your emotions because if you're a good debater but you can't control your emotions then you already lost.

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"Jack Mack" wrote:

getting angry doesn't show that people are weak. it shows they have strong emotional beliefs in what they want to debate which makes the debate so much more fun. if you can provide emotion to a debate, it becomes something new. what ramones meant about getting angry encompasses directly insulting people and bringing up things that do not have to do with the debate in an attempt to hurt someone. like I said before, it's only fun when you're winning, but when you're on the losing side it's not good. ever.

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I'm going to stay here for another 5 minutes, so if there's any other burning statements you need to get out go for it. I'm tired and my girlfriend will throttle me if she found out I stayed awake longer than I told her I would. (I'm an insomniac, so she always worries that I'll slip back into sleepless nights.) 

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"macyismydog" wrote:

"jdawg47" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

Actually I'll just say one last thing, because I like you so much jdawg. You're not a good debater, you're a good at being flame-bait. You honestly cannot win a debate by continuing to make people angry, I know, I used to try and do that. I'd come off as Mr. High and Mighty and poke fun and jab at people and wait for them to get so extremely pissed at me that I'd do what you're doing, be quiet and let them rage at you so you look like Mr. Innocent. All I've got to say is, that doesn't fly well around here, especially not in threads that have more than just debatable meaning to people but rather have emotional value to back them. In a few years I believe you have the potential to be a great debater, but as of now if you don't want to look like an immature kid I'd suggest staying out of debates until you can stop purposely trying to get people angry.

Noo please stay cuz i have a reasoning behind me getting ppl angry. Number 1 its really fun lolz jk number 1 When eople get mad, it shows how weak they are , it breaks rule number 2 this might be hard to beleive but ive been in PLENTY of debates, not on here but in real life so i kinda know how to debate just not properly when it comes to typing, i find it much harder to say what i really mean in typing than it is to say it in voice. My point is i wuld be much more fun to debate with in person rathr then on here

Making people mad to show their weakness and breaking the rules in debates do not get you very far. I know from past experience.

O and btw guys i just realized something,,, about Rule number 2 He stated , Dont get mad or irritated at the other persons opinion, cuz it will show u dont know how too debate,.   So if i get mad  in a debate it will show i cant debate.  ( btw i dont know if u have noticed this but i havent broken tht rule at all ) anyways if i get or show anger, i cant debate. Well Mr. Ramones what happnes if i Show Happiness? OR smile? what idf i smile alot during a debate? does tht mean i cant debate??? ?

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"jdawg47" wrote:

O and btw guys i just realized something,,, about Rule number 2 He stated , Dont get mad or irritated at the other persons opinion, cuz it will show u dont know how too debate,.   So if i get mad  in a debate it will show i cant debate.  ( btw i dont know if u have noticed this but i havent broken tht rule at all ) anyways if i get or show anger, i cant debate. Well Mr. Ramones what happnes if i Show Happiness? OR smile? what idf i smile alot during a debate? does tht mean i cant debate??? ?

That means that you're playing mind games. And also, if someone could look at that thread about Government, you can see that he just changed it into a debate about Religious when it's about Politics. That's the reason why you failed to debate. That's all.

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We get it, you like to be a for lack of a better word, a smartarse. The only thing you're honestly making yourself look is worse. Ramones is saying that if you get angry, it's ok, however, don't go out and directly insult someone. Other emotions are usually not provoked in a debate. Debates are supposed to be proper and well versed in etiquette. Believe it or not, that's why Congress has seemingly not got much done. They cannot follow proper etiquette and let the differentiating factor of "You're a democrat, I'm a republican we can't be friends!" get in the way. 

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"jdawg47" wrote:

"macyismydog" wrote:

"jdawg47" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

Actually I'll just say one last thing, because I like you so much jdawg. You're not a good debater, you're a good at being flame-bait. You honestly cannot win a debate by continuing to make people angry, I know, I used to try and do that. I'd come off as Mr. High and Mighty and poke fun and jab at people and wait for them to get so extremely pissed at me that I'd do what you're doing, be quiet and let them rage at you so you look like Mr. Innocent. All I've got to say is, that doesn't fly well around here, especially not in threads that have more than just debatable meaning to people but rather have emotional value to back them. In a few years I believe you have the potential to be a great debater, but as of now if you don't want to look like an immature kid I'd suggest staying out of debates until you can stop purposely trying to get people angry.

Noo please stay cuz i have a reasoning behind me getting ppl angry. Number 1 its really fun lolz jk number 1 When eople get mad, it shows how weak they are , it breaks rule number 2 this might be hard to beleive but ive been in PLENTY of debates, not on here but in real life so i kinda know how to debate just not properly when it comes to typing, i find it much harder to say what i really mean in typing than it is to say it in voice. My point is i wuld be much more fun to debate with in person rathr then on here

Making people mad to show their weakness and breaking the rules in debates do not get you very far. I know from past experience.

O and btw guys i just realized something,,, about Rule number 2 He stated , Dont get mad or irritated at the other persons opinion, cuz it will show u dont know how too debate,. So if i get mad in a debate it will show i cant debate. ( btw i dont know if u have noticed this but i havent broken tht rule at all ) anyways if i get or show anger, i cant debate. Well Mr. Ramones what happnes if i Show Happiness? OR smile? what idf i smile alot during a debate? does tht mean i cant debate??? ?

I think what JiMi said was right. Here is how I see it anyway. If you try to make somebody upset or angry in a debate to get them to show their weakness and/or going off subject doing it, those people can't debate. It's not a real debate if your doing this because it gets the debate nowhere except being locked my Jr.Mods.

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"Jack Mack" wrote:

I'm going to stay here for another 5 minutes, so if there's any other burning statements you need to get out go for it. I'm tired and my girlfriend will throttle me if she found out I stayed awake longer than I told her I would. (I'm an insomniac, so she always worries that I'll slip back into sleepless nights.) 

Theres alot of things i dont understand about authority and how people think they can use it.  Anyways about debating i nev said im good at debating, btw did i ever even say i WANTED to be good at debating? maybe i just like to debate for fun,  And btw PPL need too understand this! There is NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY of debating, sorry i put tht i caps too make it bigger im not angry   so the rulese for debating is pointless, cuz not matter what ppl say i am gunna debate the way i  debate  cuz like i said Debating, is really defined as "putting ure Opinion in the pot", I mean U cant Put ure opinion in the pot  Wrongly, tht doesnt even make any sense Same for u cant put ure opinion in the pot Rightly I say this cuz the Rules for debating is basically saying  " There is a right way t o debat and a wrong way to debate" When honeslty THERE ISNT

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But there is, there are proper rules to debating. It's like we're going around and around on a merry-go-round because I feel that my conversation has gotten nowhere with you. Debates are meant to be stimulating events and can only work if both parties in a debate adhere to general rules and etiquette. 

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"jdawg47" wrote:

"macyismydog" wrote:

"jdawg47" wrote:

"macyismydog" wrote:

"jdawg47" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

Actually I'll just say one last thing, because I like you so much jdawg. You're not a good debater, you're a good at being flame-bait. You honestly cannot win a debate by continuing to make people angry, I know, I used to try and do that. I'd come off as Mr. High and Mighty and poke fun and jab at people and wait for them to get so extremely pissed at me that I'd do what you're doing, be quiet and let them rage at you so you look like Mr. Innocent. All I've got to say is, that doesn't fly well around here, especially not in threads that have more than just debatable meaning to people but rather have emotional value to back them. In a few years I believe you have the potential to be a great debater, but as of now if you don't want to look like an immature kid I'd suggest staying out of debates until you can stop purposely trying to get people angry.

Noo please stay cuz i have a reasoning behind me getting ppl angry. Number 1 its really fun lolz jk number 1 When eople get mad, it shows how weak they are , it breaks rule number 2 this might be hard to beleive but ive been in PLENTY of debates, not on here but in real life so i kinda know how to debate just not properly when it comes to typing, i find it much harder to say what i really mean in typing than it is to say it in voice. My point is i wuld be much more fun to debate with in person rathr then on here

Making people mad to show their weakness and breaking the rules in debates do not get you very far. I know from past experience.

O and btw guys i just realized something,,, about Rule number 2 He stated , Dont get mad or irritated at the other persons opinion, cuz it will show u dont know how too debate,. So if i get mad in a debate it will show i cant debate. ( btw i dont know if u have noticed this but i havent broken tht rule at all ) anyways if i get or show anger, i cant debate. Well Mr. Ramones what happnes if i Show Happiness? OR smile? what idf i smile alot during a debate? does tht mean i cant debate??? ?

I think what JiMi said was right. Here is how I see it anyway. If you try to make somebody upset or angry in a debate to get them to show their weakness and/or going off subject doing it, those people can't debate. It's not a real debate if your doing this because it gets the debate nowhere except being locked my Jr.Mods.

Theres alot of things i dont understand about authority and how people think they can use it. Anyways about debating i nev said im good at debating, btw did i ever even say i WANTED to be good at debating? maybe i just like to debate for fun, And btw PPL need too understand this! There is NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY of debating, sorry i put tht i caps too make it bigger [img]../../../../../images/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] im not angry [img]../../../../../images/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] so the rulese for debating is pointless, cuz not matter what ppl say i am gunna debate the way i debate cuz like i said Debating, is really defined as "putting ure Opinion in the pot",I mean U cant Put ure opinion in the pot Wrongly, tht doesnt even make any senseSame for u cant put ure opinion in the pot RightlyI say this cuz the Rules for debating is basically saying " There is a right way t o debat and a wrong way to debate" When honeslty THERE ISNT [img]../../../../../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

Wrong way to debate, Right way to debate. There's a major difference.

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