"-Zachary-" wrote:

"AlphaT" wrote:

"-Allie-" wrote:

You're always incorrect on this point. You think it, but it's not reality. Some people just will what they wish and expect others to conform. But thankfully biologically its not possible.

Okay, assuming that i'm the one with the whole arguement, and the fact that you never refer to me by my username im guessing  that was refered to me...well Allie I can understand that you might not get it at the moment..see thing is thats why i refer it to be a special need or 'phycological issue'. Sure its in the genes, recurring patterns might even increase the numbers...but everything happens for a reason, just like i have genes that make me, i guess you could say, difeccent...but that does not mean i should use that to a bad advantage such as willing people to do things for me or use it as a 'firewall'....you see the problem, its there for a reason, you deal with it. That ties into sin and God a whole lot more than you can imagine.

Everything happens for a reason? I'd love to know why millions of people (especially children) die for silly reasons that could be effortlessly remedied by an omnipotent God. Adding to this, I'd like to know why people get cancerous growths all over their body that slowly eat away at them until they die. Even further, why does an omnipotent God not intervene when his subjects are killing each other over petty things like land and money, or someone breaking into my house and stabbing me because he's addicted to some form of narcotic.

This was a post to Allie but I guess I can answer you.

"Everything happens for a reason. I'd sure love to know why millions of people (especially children) die for silly reasons that could be effortlessly be remedied by people, who would take the time out of their lives to help and support one another, as a team..And I’m not just talking to a certain gender, religion, or nationality...I mean everyone."

You see why should God need to help you? Two road blocks you hit there...one this world is the polar opposite of perfect...and really no one helps as a team, I mean you have support funds all going into a Millionaires Swiss Bank Account...it’s a bad world. Like I said we need to start remedying it our self...I like to think that if you make the mess, you should clean it up...I wouldn’t think of God as a maid much either.

Second is that if everything was magically turned right all of a sudden, the death of Jesus Christ wouldn’t have been needed, and if there was no Christianity...We’d be in total chaos; there wouldn’t even be a U.S.

 

 

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"-Zachary-" wrote:

Don't really need to say anything other than

And really it all comes down to this one fact: The Bible is an infallible, non dependent, divinely inspired book.

The Bible is not fact. Many of the things in it are not capable of being reproduced and tested (such as the miracles). There is no evidence for Adam and Eve having existed, no Garden, no evidence for a flood, an Ark that carried a whooooole lot of animals, etc. 

Well duh, miracles arent spost to be tested..hece the meaning of miracle.


Ever heard of Genetic Adam and Genetic Eve? Yep there was indeedly a garden...just it was closed, geographists *or however you spell it* indicate that it resided in Africa before continent spilling. No evidence for a flood? Your kidding?  I'd say all we need is a batch of hydrolic theory with a mist over earth which is all in Genesis. And the Ark...well A. We've found some shard of the Ark in the mountains. B. Check Genesis..the dimensions are accurate to hold two baby animals form every species for that period of time.

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You see why should God need to help you? Two road blocks you hit there...one this world is the polar opposite of perfect...and really no one helps as a team, I mean you have support funds all going into a Millionaires Swiss Bank Account...it’s a bad world. Like I said we need to start remedying it our self...I like to think that if you make the mess, you should clean it up...I wouldn’t think of God as a maid much either.

 

Because if you have the opportunity to help someone (or, you know, every single living being on the planet) at the cost of nothing to yourself, you should do it. It's called doing what's actually morally correct. If a God stands by and lets his subjects destroy themselves despite having the power to fix everything and make life grand like it supposedly was in the Garden, then he should. It's what's right.

Second is that if everything was magically turned right all of a sudden, the death of Jesus Christ wouldn’t have been needed, and if there was no Christianity...We’d be in total chaos; there wouldn’t even be a U.S.

 

US' founding had nothing to do with Christianity. Death of Jesus Christ was never needed, and an omnipotent God could fix everything, if he wanted, if he existed.

The same omnipotent God could get rid of christianity and stop the world from plunging into chaos, which isn't what would happen to begin with. 

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I cant read that sorry. Might want to fix that displacement.

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Well duh, miracles arent spost to be tested..hece the meaning of miracle.

In other words, not provable, meaning not fact.

Ever heard of Genetic Adam and Genetic Eve?

Yes, and it has almost absolutely nothing to do with the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible. 

Yep there was indeedly a garden...just it was closed, geographists *or however you spell it* indicate that it resided in Africa before continent spilling.

No, really, there wasn't. I'd love for you to post something I can look up that isn't from a blatantly Christian fundamentalist site. 

No evidence for a flood? Your kidding?

No, not kidding. There's no geological evidence to support the Flood that's described in the Bible. Erosion is an extremely slow process, and the Earth could not have been shaped in the way it is in such a small amount of time (thousands of years). Furthermore, if there had been a Flood, it would have been uniform around the Earth, meaning that its effects would be even and there wouldn't be such a large difference between, for example, the sizes of mountains. 

I'd say all we need is a batch of hydrolic theory

You've mentioned this before, and I looked it up, and found nothing. 

B. Check Genesis..the dimensions are accurate to hold two baby animals form every species for that period of time.

The dimensions would have to be incredibly, INCREDIBLY unrealistic to be able to hold two baby animals from every species from whenever silly point it occurred at. We also haven't found the Ark. If you're referring to the thing in Turkey, it's an old boat. 

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No you dont get it..delete that post before my last one, its causing some things pertaining to the placement of everything....at least for  me.

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bcos it's weird nd against GOD

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If were on this topc, we need to make a new fourm and you put that post in the other form...itd be going off topic.

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"AlphaT" wrote:

If were on this topc, we need to make a new fourm and you put that post in the other form...itd be going off topic.

Go for it. Just reply to it. 

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God loves people of all sexuality. If God didn't want me to be bi, he never would have made me bi.

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