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What are the evidence and proof of your current religion?

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That's trademarked  but yes,


Personally I wouldn't trademark something that says 'replationship'. lol
Id trademark the word, you'd make a mint off of it.


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Posted almost 4 years ago


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Soo what makes something a religion?


The belief in a God with dogma attached to it. Dogma being things that are taught as incontrovertibly true, such as the events in the Bible, Koran, etc. 
From a worldsence, yes. And doctrine wise, also yes its a religion. But you take what Christianity is. A salvation relationship with God, a gift of life so to speak, and its not a religion. Its a relationship with God. However I do have a minor issue with the word dogma. Is it dogma if it can be explained?


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Posted almost 4 years ago
 A salvation relationship with God, a gift of life so to speak, and its not a religion.


Yeah, and everyone will say that about their own religion. "Oh, Islam isn't a religion, I just have a close relationship with Allah and Muhammed!"

It's a religion. Relationship or not, it's still a religion.

However I do have a minor issue with the word dogma. Is it dogma if it can be explained?


It's dogma if it's taught as incontrovertibly true. Doesn't matter if it can be explained. So, yes, it would still be dogma. 

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Zachary-" wrote:


 A salvation relationship with God, a gift of life so to speak, and its not a religion.


Yeah, and everyone will say that about their own religion. "Oh, Islam isn't a religion, I just have a close relationship with Allah and Muhammed!"

It's a religion. Relationship or not, it's still a religion.


However I do have a minor issue with the word dogma. Is it dogma if it can be explained?


It's dogma if it's taught as incontrovertibly true. Doesn't matter if it can be explained. So, yes, it would still be dogma. 
  That's a difference, Islam kind of um, got it wrong some to say. We worship the word for God, in a linguistic since, but its not really the same God. Since its like Trinitarial. But, you cant say that Christianity Is a religion with starting off with it being a religion or equally comparing it with a religion. So, then if something is taught to be true, as a fact, its dogma. "The dogma of gravity". lol, now I know you'll say something around the lines of 'science is not taught as inadvertent truth", but who honestly can refute gravity with real evidence?


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Posted almost 4 years ago
We worship the word for God, in a linguistic since, but its not really the same God. Since its like Trinitarial


The trinity is still God. 

But, you cant say that Christianity Is a religion with starting off with it being a religion or equally comparing it with a religion.


It is a religion. Belief in a deity. System of ethics, etc. 

So, then if something is taught to be true, as a fact, its dogma. "The dogma of gravity". lol, now I know you'll say something around the lines of 'science is not taught as inadvertent truth", but who honestly can refute gravity with real evidence?


Being taught as true is not the same as being taught as incontrovertibly true. Science uses evidence to support hypotheses which grow into theories and are, to the extent of present knowledge, true. It's not until that theory falls apart is it not true. Science never uses dogma, and not being able to refute something doesn't make it dogma.

Teaching, for example, the theory of gravity being truth is entirely fine because it is what is best supported with the evidence at this time. Teaching it as being incontrovertibly true and true no matter what kind of contradictory evidence pops up is dogma, and that doesn't happen in science. 

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Zachary-" wrote:


 


The trinity is still God. 
Exactly but Islam doesn't worship the Trinitarial God. Get it now?

 

It is a religion. Belief in a deity. System of ethics, etc.      
Not really, because your still looking at it from the standpoint that its of a criteria of what it says and holds, What you don't understand Sean is that its more rooted than that. Its about your relationship with Christ, receiving his gift of life.    
   

Being taught as true is not the same as being taught as incontrovertibly true. Science uses evidence to support hypotheses which grow into theories and are, to the extent of present knowledge, true. It's not until that theory falls apart is it not true. Science never uses dogma, and not being able to refute something doesn't make it dogma.
So by this, Christianity isn't dogma? Since it formulates itself to a theory? And if your last statement is aiding that Christianity/Religion is Dogma, you just said religion was irrefutable. 
 


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Zachary-" wrote:


Soo what makes something a religion?


The belief in a God with dogma attached to it. Dogma being things that are taught as incontrovertibly true, such as the events in the Bible, Koran, etc. 

What is Atheism? 

My opinions is right has the possibility of being wrong, and your opinion is wrong has the possibility of being right.


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Yeah, and everyone will say that about their own religion. "Oh, Islam isn't a religion, I just have a close relationship with Allah and Muhammed!"


It's a religion. Relationship or not, it's still a religion.


We don't actually say that Islam isn't a religion .

My opinions is right has the possibility of being wrong, and your opinion is wrong has the possibility of being right.


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What is Atheism?


An absence of belief in a deity? 

We don't actually say that Islam isn't a religion .


The point was that everyone could claim their religion isn't a religion to remove the negative connotations applied to it by claiming it to be a relationship. 

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Zachary-" wrote:




An absence of belief in a deity?

Don't you believe that there is no God, even thought you can't prove that a god doesn't exist, and no religion is true? It's a dogma against religion.


 

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The point was that everyone could claim their religion isn't a religion


They could, I doubt any Muslim with knowledge of his/her religion would claim Islam isn't a religion ever. 

"-Zachary-" wrote:


to remove the negative connotations applied to it by claiming it to be a relationship.

They're no negative connotations to our religion as we believe and you think we want to claim something about Islam to what other people think is less negative?!

My opinions is right has the possibility of being wrong, and your opinion is wrong has the possibility of being right.


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