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Were Jesus' so called miricals just illusions with people in on the trick like many magicians today...
can we be sure Jesus is really son of god


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He existed, as a Ordinary Human being. He was not the son of God, but he existed. Undoubtedly we can regard him as one of the most Wisest man ever lived, perhaps the one who understood the heavenly power called 'love" more than any one else.
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Were Jesus' so called miricals just illusions with people in on the trick like many magicians today...

can we be sure Jesus is really son of god

Well look at motives. He didn't have anything to gain. In fact, he willingly gave his life. That's all the proof I need. I hope I don't sound rude.

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"Turtle52" wrote:


Were Jesus' so called miricals just illusions with people in on the trick like many magicians today...


can we be sure Jesus is really son of god

Well look at motives. He didn't have anything to gain. In fact, he willingly gave his life. That's all the proof I need. I hope I don't sound rude.


Are you implying that all selfless individuals possess magical powers, then? 


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"Smeags" wrote:






"Turtle52" wrote:




Were Jesus' so called miricals just illusions with people in on the trick like many magicians today...



can we be sure Jesus is really son of god

Well look at motives. He didn't have anything to gain. In fact, he willingly gave his life. That's all the proof I need. I hope I don't sound rude.


Are you implying that all selfless individuals possess magical powers, then? 

"MaterialSlop" wrote:



"Smeags" wrote:






"Turtle52" wrote:




Were Jesus' so called miricals just illusions with people in on the trick like many magicians today...



can we be sure Jesus is really son of god

Well look at motives. He didn't have anything to gain. In fact, he willingly gave his life. That's all the proof I need. I hope I don't sound rude.


Are you implying that all selfless individuals possess magical powers, then? 


No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying... think of Oz the great and powerful. He was a fake magician. He was one so he could make money. But Jesus gave way more than he got in more ways than one. I'm not saying that all selfless people are magical. That's not at all what I'm saying! But how I know that Jesus wasn't a scam was the fact he gained nothing and had nothing to gain. 



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He got fame and renown, and a ticket to heaven.

And maybe he got other things, too, that weren't mentioned in the bible.


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For one thing, Jesus needed no ticket to heaven, because he is God.
With that said, when he died, Jesus had nothing. Whether it be money, or possessions, or even friends.
If you recall, the Pharisees gambled for his clothes and other garments, he had no house, and all of his closest friends either abandoned him, sold him out, or actively denied knowing him. He lost everything he had, as well as letting these things happen because he knew they needed to happen for our own good.
This wasn't just some party trick, and these weren't just ordinary things. No one can come back from the dead, especially from death on the cross. These things are called miracles for a reason.
And, there were some things that he never got fame or money from, in fact, there were quite a few. And some miracles he preformed that people actively looked down on.
The fact that he never tried to take peoples money in our records, and I believe he never did besides. Being without sin and all that.
He never asked for recognition, and took peoples rebukes, blatant disrespect, and all the pain they gave him quite selflessly.
I believe that this is the truth, but I can completely understand being skeptical, especially in the world we live in today. It's hard to even think about this stuff being true when science tells you it isn't possible.
The Bible does say that everything is possible with God.
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Sorry if I offended you. It wasn't my intent, or what I wanted so sorry if that's what it seemed like.

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Of course not.
Miracles and illusions are far from similar.

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