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God is everywhere,let me prove that.
God has created everything so when I look at flowers I find out that God is beautiful when I look at sea I find out that God is more than you think, When I look at myself I find out God is so smart.
So, God is everywhere . You need to think about the world to find God in them.

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Posted over 1 year ago

"Asbab" wrote:

God is everywhere,let me prove that.

God has created everything so when I look at flowers I find out that God is beautiful when I look at sea I find out that God is more than you think, When I look at myself I find out God is so smart.


So, God is everywhere . You need to think about the world to find God in them.
 

God is omnipresent, but you wouldn't say that everything God creates is a revelation of His ontology, would you? 


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Posted over 1 year ago
Why not, I can't see anything bad from God!
In everything you can find a reason to be created by God and God knows all of the thing so when he creates somrthing bad or harmful,it means God does not know anything but as we know its not true.

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"Asbab" wrote:

Why not, I can't see anything bad from God!

In everything you can find a reason to be created by God and God knows all of the thing so when he creates somrthing bad or harmful,it means God does not know anything but as we know its not true.
Yet we see bad things all the time.


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Posted over 1 year ago
So,let's talk about bad things that God has sent ...
Give a subject

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Posted over 1 year ago
As you know , you cant see or hear all of the things and sometimes you must feel with your heart, Alphat you can speak , walk and think also you can see and listen , you are healthy.
So, dont you think they are from God???!

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"Asbab" wrote:

As you know , you cant see or hear all of the things and sometimes you must feel with your heart, Alphat you can speak , walk and think also you can see and listen , you are healthy.

So, dont you think they are from God???!
Wait did you jus try to say that God only creates good things? I'm fascinated by your ignorance. Name me one good thing God has done and I'll give you one hundred bad ones. But in response to what you just said what about people who are born blind, deaf, or incapable of feeling? Why we're they secluded from God's love?  What about people who are born paraplegic, or as vegetables, or people born with all kinds of deadly diseases before they even leave the womb. Why are they separated from God's goodness?

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"Asbab" wrote:

As you know , you cant see or hear all of the things and sometimes you must feel with your heart, Alphat you can speak , walk and think also you can see and listen , you are healthy.

So, dont you think they are from God???!
Yes, from the perspective of His sovereignty. However, I don't think that God personally endowed me to be healthy and see and listen. After all, wouldn't we then need to say that God disables anyone with any disability as well? Sure, God can make a deficit in a person, or use one to serve Him, but to say that God dictates everything that makes us who we are and everything that characterizes our state of being? That's asinine. 


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Allah, the Exalted, has described Himself in His Book, and by the tongue of His Messenger sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam as Sublime, Supreme, and Lofty. The Qur'an is full of proofs relevant to the Loftiness of Allah.

Ahlus-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah believe in and confirm all of the attributes of Allah without distorting their meaning, and that Allah is above His seven heavens, above His 'Arsh, and separated from His creatures, and His creatures are separated from Him.

This discourse will provide the Scriptural proofs of the Loftiness of Allah is an indivisible part of the inherent faculty of knowing Allah with which Allah has created mankind. Although the 'aqidah of Loftiness of Allah is part of man's innate knowledge and cannot be subjected to hypothetical of philosophical argumentation, there are some deviated sects who follow their whims and deny this intuitive and self-evident fact. For this reason, they have twisted Scriptural proofs and distorted them, and manipulated the texts to conform with their deviant argument.

All of the divine attributes are intrinsically related to the attribute of divine Loftiness. Therefore, accepting or rejecting them must be based on accepting or rejecting the Loftiness of Allah. Whoever believes that Allah is above His 'Arsh [The Throne of Allah] and separated from His creatures, also believes in the rest of the attributes of Allah, and believes as well that the heaves and the earth submit to His will, and that He is the Great Rabb of the worlds. Allah does whatever He wills and rules according to His Own wishes. Glory be to Him.

Denial of the divine Loftiness is one of the basic doctrinal heresy promoted by theJahmiyyah[2] and their off-shoots of today in order to confuse the Muslims' minds. Denying this divine attribute also leads by necessity to the denial of the attribute of the istiwa of Allah above His 'Arsh. There is no doubt that the denial of the attributes of Allah clashes with the clear Qur'anic verses in which the unique essential attributes and beautiful names of Allah confirmed. These attributes must be affirmed as identical with Allah.

The essential divine attributes of Allah constitute an integral part of His essence and are not superadded to it. They are accepted literally by Ahlus-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah without questioning the 'how' of these attributes. To deny them is clear unbelief and heresy. It is for this reason this discourse has been prepared to deal with the creed of Loftiness of Allah, or the question, 'Where is Allah?' with the Scriptural evidences from the Qur'an and the authentic prophetic traditions, as well as the traditions of those early Muslims, the pious predecessors. 


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