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Why do ATHEISTS say this?

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Posted about 4 years ago


"foreveranerd" wrote:






"Aarjan" wrote:









"Jesse" wrote:






 "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence". -- Richard Dawkins





Many Atheists, in their arguments, I have seen on this website resort to quoting and using Big-name authors, noblemen & scientists to disprove the existence of God. 





"I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side" - Abraham Lincoln





"I am an agnostic" - Carl Sagan





"None of us can be as Great as God, but any of us can be just as Good"- Mark Twain certainly hated religion, but he certainly wasn't an atheist. 





"God governs in the affairs of men." - Benjamin Franklin





"There is a great directing head of people and things -- a Supreme Being who looks after the destinies of the world" - Thomas Edison, is not an Atheist. 





'Say nothing of my religion. It is known to myself and my God alone." - Thomas Jefferson

Albert Einstein rejected the Bible as the word of God, and said that the creator was unknowable, and that God being personal was child-like.





He also lamented -- "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God."





then he added

"But what really makes me angry, is that they quote me for the support of such views."





oops.





He used the term "fanatical atheists" of people who denied the existence of the creator. 





Charles Darwin said, "I have never been an Atheist." (The life and Letters of Charles Darwin)





credz to "God Vs. Evolution" project.



If you believe in a moral or religious ideal, It is not hard to take a decision. Because, Many have uttered their opinion on the subject and determined right-wrong. You can easily follow them. 

Now, from your post, You are implying that You shouldn't take a decision according to an ideal - your decision must be unique ( you are writing this about atheists who follows an ideal. )

But there is no difference between atheists who quotes famous people and Christians who quotes Bible's verse-  Both follows an ideal- opinions of some one else. But it is serious with Christians- as they are being controlled by Bible.



Why is one group "serious" for following a text that you don't believe in? All religious (and non-religious) groups do exactly the same thing with the text they read. Atheists use the facts provided to them in order to find their truth, only focusing on the numbers. Christians, use text to guide them. (Personally, I use text and facts. This keeps truth lined up with my morals.) 

In my opinion, both groups are just as serious. 


Fact=/=opinion. ( Bible is a collection of opinions ) 

Personal Experience and act according to your own opinion is needed to find the Truth.





the rest is silence 


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Posted about 4 years ago

"Jesse" wrote:

Religious idea is not based on moral absolute, who told you that?

I didn't said that.

 

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Posted about 4 years ago

"Evea" wrote:

Some atheist  use quotes from scientist as if as if they stood there beside them through every step of their research.

Religious people believes in religious texts with a greater faith.

"Evea" wrote:

The point is, while  there is insufficient evidence that any god exist, there's still no proof that they don't exist either.

The absence of evidence does not mean something is not true.

It's not possible to disprove an imaginary thing.
you have the Idea of a perfect Circle, but that doesn't means that a perfect circle exists.

"Evea" wrote:

Sure science can tell me how my body works, how I was brought into the world but can it tell me why I am here, ever? No.


Your Question is based on the assumption that we are in existence for a reason.

 


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Posted about 4 years ago


"Aarjan" wrote:





 







"Evea" wrote:




Some atheist  use quotes from scientist as if as if they stood there beside them through every step of their research.

 

Religious people believes in religious texts with a greater faith.

 





"Evea" wrote:




The point is, while  there is insufficient evidence that any god exist, there's still no proof that they don't exist either.



The absence of evidence does not mean something is not true.


 

 

It's not possible to disprove an imaginary thing.
you have the Idea of a perfect Circle, but that doesn't means that a perfect circle exists.

 





"Evea" wrote:




Sure science can tell me how my body works, how I was brought into the world but can it tell me why I am here, ever? No.


 

 


Your Question is based on the assumption that we are in existence for a reason.

 

Religious people believes in religious texts with a greater faith. No. If one can so strongly disprove a God’s existence with so much passion and without any evidence of absence of existence, than they have just as much faith in science as theists have in their god(s). They want to believe they're better, smarter, not as gullible but in reality they are. Which is why I have so much respect for agnostics. They don't deny or confirm and I admire that. 
 
It's not possible to disprove an imaginary thing.
you have the Idea of a perfect Circle, but that doesn't means that a perfect circle exists. It's not an idea. It's a belief. And how are you so sure it's an imaginary thing? Do you have any evidence to prove so? It exist until you can prove it doesn't, the same way someone is innocent until proven guilty.  

Your Question is based on the assumption that we are in existence for a reason. Again, it's not an assumption, it's an belief. Just as atheists believe and depend so much on science they probably haven't seen for themselves, tested for themselves, or even understand for themselves. They rely on what they hear and they don't run trials themselves, therefore they can very well be fed lies and they won't even question anything. I rather think for myself.  
 

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Posted about 4 years ago




"Evea" wrote:



Religious people believes in religious texts with a greater faith. No. If one can so strongly disprove a God’s existence with so much passion and without any evidence of absence of existence, than they have just as much faith in science as theists have in their god(s). They want to believe they're better, smarter, not as gullible but in reality they are. Which is why I have so much respect for agnostics. They don't deny or confirm and I admire that. 








 






It's not possible to disprove an imaginary thing.






you have the Idea of a perfect Circle, but that doesn't means that a perfect circle exists. It's not an idea. It's a belief. And how are you so sure it's an imaginary thing? Do you have any evidence to prove so? It exist until you can prove it doesn't, the same way someone is innocent until proven guilty.  




Your Question is based on the assumption that we are in existence for a reason. Again, it's not an assumption, it's an belief. Just as atheists believe and depend so much on science they probably haven't seen for themselves, tested for themselves, or even understand for themselves. They rely on what they hear and they don't run trials themselves, therefore they can very well be fed lies and they won't even question anything. I rather think for myself.  









 






 


If one can so strongly disprove a God’s existence with so much passion and without any evidence of absence of existence, than they have just as much faith in science as theists have in their god(s) -  They can not- Nor they claims.

 It's not an idea. It's a belief. And how are you so sure it's an imaginary thing? Do you have any evidence to prove so - idea=Belief. , from the beginning, God was imaginary- God is the result of  incomplete knowledge. Everything what claims God exists starts from the conclusion that God must exists- without any evidence. Therefor, God is imaginary -  Humans discovered or Created God - Without any evidence. - until some one provides Evidence, God is Imaginary.
Your Question is based on the assumption that we are in existence for a reason- Your belief is an assumption.

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Posted about 4 years ago


"Evea" wrote:


Again, it's not an assumption, it's an belief. Just as atheists believe and depend so much on science they probably haven't seen for themselves, tested for themselves, or even understand for themselves. They rely on what they hear and they don't run trials themselves, therefore they can very well be fed lies and they won't even question anything. I rather think for myself.  




you have a complete Wrong understanding on Atheism.

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Posted about 4 years ago
There isn't much difference with Christians quoting the bible...except for the bible is baseless

tee hee

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Posted about 4 years ago

"Aarjan" wrote:





"Evea" wrote:




Again, it's not an assumption, it's an belief. Just as atheists believe and depend so much on science they probably haven't seen for themselves, tested for themselves, or even understand for themselves. They rely on what they hear and they don't run trials themselves, therefore they can very well be fed lies and they won't even question anything. I rather think for myself.  




you have a complete Wrong understanding on Atheism.


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Posted about 4 years ago

"iamaledge" wrote:

There isn't much difference with Christians quoting the bible...except for the bible is baseless


tee hee
Yay! XD I was getting bored. How is it baseless?


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Posted about 4 years ago

"AlphaT" wrote:



"iamaledge" wrote:


There isn't much difference with Christians quoting the bible...except for the bible is baseless



tee hee
Yay! XD I was getting bored. How is it baseless?


umm, as in it has no base

how can you quote a 2000 year old book translated many times over that 2000 years? 

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