Some Atheists speak of a time in their lives when they came to realization. An epiphany, so to speak, that explains to them why they don't believe in a god.  This was mine: There is something past this world that creates us. Just like Dark Matter, it's mysterious and strange and we're not sure what it's made of or what it does. In our lifetime, we probably never will. It's far beyond the Earth on which we live, the stars that we look at during the night, or anything within our comfort zone. It's the origin of the Big Bang. It is what creates things and what destroys them. This is the God. Allah. Etc, etc.  This may be hard for people to understand because until now I've kept this idea in my head and I haven't tried to explain it to anybody. But I don't think there is a being or an existence out there that creates people and animals and trees and all of that.  Throughout the times that humans have inhabited the Earth, there have been religions based on different levels of understanding. Religions are like trends. They change and alter and sometimes they completely disappear, replaced by other, more "advanced" ones. In this time of our lives, Christianity is pretty dominant. The Bible is the explanation of our existence and the book by which many people live. It doesn't mean it's right. Religion is merely a way of explaining things. A way to help people understand what they probably never will.  Some time, Christianity will be gone. People will look back on the Christians of 2012 and say "What in [insert current god's name here] name were they thinking?", just as many people look back on the religions of the Aztecs and the Incas and wonder how they could worship the sun and the rain and so on. There will come a time when knowledge will be more advanced, and because of that, so will religion. Just like the Incas, with their limited knowledge, worshipped what was right in front of them, like the sun and the water, people of the future will have more expansion in their beliefs. I don't think there's a god. I think that religion is just all sorts of different ways to make sense of things that you can't understand. I'm sorry if this is confusing. What do you think of my idea? 

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Okay...that royally pushed me off.

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"AlphaT" wrote:

Okay...that royally pushed me off.

How?

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"pickledegg" wrote:

"AlphaT" wrote:

Okay...that royally pushed me off.

How?

Because you made a cofusing statement and ended with something that I cannot stand.

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"AlphaT" wrote:

"pickledegg" wrote:

"AlphaT" wrote:

Okay...that royally pushed me off.

How?

Because you made a cofusing statement and ended with something that I cannot stand.

Religions/Gods are people's explanations for things they don't understand.  I ended with a question. 

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you do realize that it takes more faith to be an atheist, yeah? seriously. and yes, sometimes we have to choose to believe things. like for example, sometimes i feel like no one cares about me & i’m invisible. just because i feel that doesn’t mean it’s true. the truth is that i’m adored by friends & family, it’s just that they are busy & sometimes i don’t make enough effort. sometimes i hide out & think i’m invisible but really, i’m just hiding. so i have to choose to believe that i’m loved & valued & such. feelings lie to us. truth doesn’t. the truth is that God is real & He loves you. He made you. Whether you choose to believe in Him or not, He’s real & He’ll still love you. Don’t think ‘that could be God?… If it’s a good & pure thing, it is. His love is why I’m free. His grace is why I’m saved. His mercy is why He forgives me every time I stupidly turn away from Him. You have the opportunity to know Him. I don’t even care how crazy this sounds because whether you believe it or not, it’s true: You can hear God. I hear Him. He speaks to me in my mind. Not like a crazy voice. It’s like when you envision something but you don’t actually ‘see’ it.. You see it, but not visually. It’s the same with hearing Jesus or feeling His presence. I’ve had God put His hands on my face & lift it up & tell me that I am pure & that He loves me. After all the horrible things I’ve done, there is absolutely no way in hell that I could ever make that up myself. It was God. I don’t care if you’re happy without God. I want you to be happy with Him. I’m sorry if this all sounds preachy but there is a peace & joy & freedom that you will never know without Him. You were made for so much more than you know… I don’t pity you. I’d pity you if you wanted to believe & just couldn’t. But you are completely self sufficient & independent. You’re content as you are. After knowing how much freedom there is in relying on God, I’d hate to be in your shoes. I hope that this can somehow inspire & encourage you. Whether it be to seek God more, to love people more, or to stand up for what’s true. I hope this starts a fire in your heart.

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"SweetCandace" wrote:

you do realize that it takes more faith to be an atheist, yeah? seriously. and yes, sometimes we have to choose to believe things. like for example, sometimes i feel like no one cares about me & i’m invisible. just because i feel that doesn’t mean it’s true. the truth is that i’m adored by friends & family, it’s just that they are busy & sometimes i don’t make enough effort. sometimes i hide out & think i’m invisible but really, i’m just hiding. so i have to choose to believe that i’m loved & valued & such. feelings lie to us. truth doesn’t. the truth is that God is real & He loves you. He made you. Whether you choose to believe in Him or not, He’s real & He’ll still love you. Don’t think ‘that could be God?… If it’s a good & pure thing, it is. His love is why I’m free. His grace is why I’m saved. His mercy is why He forgives me every time I stupidly turn away from Him. You have the opportunity to know Him. I don’t even care how crazy this sounds because whether you believe it or not, it’s true: You can hear God. I hear Him. He speaks to me in my mind. Not like a crazy voice. It’s like when you envision something but you don’t actually ‘see’ it.. You see it, but not visually. It’s the same with hearing Jesus or feeling His presence. I’ve had God put His hands on my face & lift it up & tell me that I am pure & that He loves me. After all the horrible things I’ve done, there is absolutely no way in hell that I could ever make that up myself. It was God. I don’t care if you’re happy without God. I want you to be happy with Him. I’m sorry if this all sounds preachy but there is a peace & joy & freedom that you will never know without Him. You were made for so much more than you know… I don’t pity you. I’d pity you if you wanted to believe & just couldn’t. But you are completely self sufficient & independent. You’re content as you are. After knowing how much freedom there is in relying on God, I’d hate to be in your shoes. I hope that this can somehow inspire & encourage you. Whether it be to seek God more, to love people more, or to stand up for what’s true. I hope this starts a fire in your heart.

It doesn't take faith to be an Atheist. Faith is a belief that is not based on proof.  If you know that you're not "invisible", then why believe it?  You completely ignored my ideas and thoughts. You didn't say anything related to my idea about religion. I'm completely happy. I'm peaceful. I'm free. I'm an Atheist. I am content as I am, you're right about that.  I'm sorry, but I'm not going to change. And I do believe it would be painful to have my heart set aflame.

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"SweetCandace" wrote:

you do realize that it takes more faith to be an atheist, yeah? seriously. and yes, sometimes we have to choose to believe things. like for example, sometimes i feel like no one cares about me & i’m invisible. just because i feel that doesn’t mean it’s true. the truth is that i’m adored by friends & family, it’s just that they are busy & sometimes i don’t make enough effort. sometimes i hide out & think i’m invisible but really, i’m just hiding. so i have to choose to believe that i’m loved & valued & such. feelings lie to us. truth doesn’t. the truth is that God is real & He loves you. He made you. Whether you choose to believe in Him or not, He’s real & He’ll still love you. Don’t think ‘that could be God?… If it’s a good & pure thing, it is. His love is why I’m free. His grace is why I’m saved. His mercy is why He forgives me every time I stupidly turn away from Him. You have the opportunity to know Him. I don’t even care how crazy this sounds because whether you believe it or not, it’s true: You can hear God. I hear Him. He speaks to me in my mind. Not like a crazy voice. It’s like when you envision something but you don’t actually ‘see’ it.. You see it, but not visually. It’s the same with hearing Jesus or feeling His presence. I’ve had God put His hands on my face & lift it up & tell me that I am pure & that He loves me. After all the horrible things I’ve done, there is absolutely no way in hell that I could ever make that up myself. It was God. I don’t care if you’re happy without God. I want you to be happy with Him. I’m sorry if this all sounds preachy but there is a peace & joy & freedom that you will never know without Him. You were made for so much more than you know… I don’t pity you. I’d pity you if you wanted to believe & just couldn’t. But you are completely self sufficient & independent. You’re content as you are. After knowing how much freedom there is in relying on God, I’d hate to be in your shoes. I hope that this can somehow inspire & encourage you. Whether it be to seek God more, to love people more, or to stand up for what’s true. I hope this starts a fire in your heart.

That post mess ed with my eyes...and I can believe that 2 gurls are trying to beat me in religion. HA! Anyway, Christians aren't all sunshine and dasies..sometimes whole familkies die...you aint the only ones.

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@SweetCandace you do realize that it takes more faith to be an atheist, yeah? seriously. and yes, sometimes we have to choose to believe things. like for example, sometimes i feel like no one cares about me & i’m invisible. just because i feel that doesn’t mean it’s true. the truth is that i’m adored by friends & family, it’s just that they are busy & sometimes i don’t make enough effort. sometimes i hide out & think i’m invisible but really, i’m just hiding. so i have to choose to believe that i’m loved & valued & such. If someone doesn't claim to know that God doesn't exist and just doesn't believe that he does because of the lack of proof and substantial evidence, that requires no faith. feelings lie to us. truth doesn’t. How would you know the truth, when you ignore the importance of proof for supernatural claims? the truth is that God is real & He loves you. He made you. Whether you choose to believe in Him or not, He’s real & He’ll still love you. Don’t think ‘that could be God?… If it’s a good & pure thing, it is. His love is why I’m free. His grace is why I’m saved. His mercy is why He forgives me every time I stupidly turn away from Him. You have the opportunity to know Him. If it's a good, pure thing, it is real? What makes you think that?  I don’t even care how crazy this sounds because whether you believe it or not, it’s true: You can hear God. I hear Him. He speaks to me in my mind. Not like a crazy voice. It’s like when you envision something but you don’t actually ‘see’ it.. You see it, but not visually. It’s the same with hearing Jesus or feeling His presence. I’ve had God put His hands on my face & lift it up & tell me that I am pure & that He loves me. After all the horrible things I’ve done, there is absolutely no way in hell that I could ever make that up myself. It was God. You keep claiming it is true, but offer only arguments based on feelings.  

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"SweetCandace" wrote:

you do realize that it takes more faith to be an atheist, yeah? seriously. and yes, sometimes we have to choose to believe things. like for example, sometimes i feel like no one cares about me & i’m invisible. just because i feel that doesn’t mean it’s true. the truth is that i’m adored by friends & family, it’s just that they are busy & sometimes i don’t make enough effort. sometimes i hide out & think i’m invisible but really, i’m just hiding. so i have to choose to believe that i’m loved & valued & such. feelings lie to us. truth doesn’t.

Faith can lead someone to wasting their life believing in something that have a chance of not exist. Do you have a clue what's the definition of faith is? Faith is a belief without the need of proof. You can't simply believe in something that aren't proven. There are plenty of religion around the world with people putting their faith in the religion, what makes your religion valid and special than theirs? You require faith to believe but you require proof to prove what you believe is true.

the truth is that God is real & He loves you. He made you. Whether you choose to believe in Him or not, He’s real & He’ll still love you. Don’t think ‘that could be God?… If it’s a good & pure thing, it is. His love is why I’m free. His grace is why I’m saved. His mercy is why He forgives me every time I stupidly turn away from Him. You have the opportunity to know Him.

How are you sure that this omnipotent and omniscient being exist when he couldn't even able to provide a simple proof to prove his own existence while knowing that the human race will eventually have doubts in his existence and questioning them thus creating atheism?

I don’t even care how crazy this sounds because whether you believe it or not, it’s true: You can hear God. I hear Him. He speaks to me in my mind. Not like a crazy voice. It’s like when you envision something but you don’t actually ‘see’ it.. You see it, but not visually. It’s the same with hearing Jesus or feeling His presence. I’ve had God put His hands on my face & lift it up & tell me that I am pure & that He loves me. After all the horrible things I’ve done, there is absolutely no way in hell that I could ever make that up myself. It was God.

You kept claiming that god exist but at the same time, you couldn't even prove his existence. You can claim something is real but in order to make your claim valid, you need to provide a proof. I don't see in any part of your post where you state anything worth debating about and to be considered as true. There are plenty of claims made about go talking to them and it comes from around the world and from different religions. None of them are proven true. I suggest you get some help with this voice and hallucination of yours.

I don’t care if you’re happy without God. I want you to be happy with Him. I’m sorry if this all sounds preachy but there is a peace & joy & freedom that you will never know without Him. You were made for so much more than you know… I don’t pity you. I’d pity you if you wanted to believe & just couldn’t. But you are completely self sufficient & independent. You’re content as you are. After knowing how much freedom there is in relying on God, I’d hate to be in your shoes. I hope that this can somehow inspire & encourage you. Whether it be to seek God more, to love people more, or to stand up for what’s true. I hope this starts a fire in your heart.

I pity you.

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Also known as God.