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Free Will is an Illusion

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"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?


Free Will is an Illusion

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"Sage_kittycat" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

anyway regardless if there is a god or not free will is still an illusion.  everyone thinks our choices matter, but they really don't in the grand scheme of running this wonderful country of ours. 
It's not totally an illusion. What do you think the American people fight for? Freedom isn't free. Though I do believe that the economy is too large. If we're not careful in a couple-hundred years we'll be a Communist country. Yes, I'm one of those "crazy people" XD
The American people fight for their jobs and fight for survival.  We're all mindless puppets tot he bias of the media, really. 


Free Will is an Illusion

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"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?
AlphaT. if there is an omniscient being that knows all of which will happen, yet gives us free will, for every choice we make we spawn another reality. 


Free Will is an Illusion

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"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?
AlphaT. if there is an omniscient being that knows all of which will happen, yet gives us free will, for every choice we make we spawn another reality. 
You're really leaping to conclusions with determinism.


Free Will is an Illusion

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Jack Mack
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"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?
AlphaT. if there is an omniscient being that knows all of which will happen, yet gives us free will, for every choice we make we spawn another reality. 
You're really leaping to conclusions with determinism.
Not sure how else it would work then. If He has everything planned and gives us free will, then our reality would change in accordance to what we pick. 


Free Will is an Illusion

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"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?
AlphaT. if there is an omniscient being that knows all of which will happen, yet gives us free will, for every choice we make we spawn another reality. 
You're really leaping to conclusions with determinism.
Not sure how else it would work then. If He has everything planned and gives us free will, then our reality would change in accordance to what we pick. 
I don't think you understand. If God exists and knows everything, what you 'pick' was destined to happen. Meaning you don't ACTUALLY make a choice, though it feels like it from your perspective.


Free Will is an Illusion

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"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

"MikhailTal" wrote:

"Jack Mack" wrote:

do you believe in alternate realities then?
Who?
AlphaT. if there is an omniscient being that knows all of which will happen, yet gives us free will, for every choice we make we spawn another reality. 
You're really leaping to conclusions with determinism.
Not sure how else it would work then. If He has everything planned and gives us free will, then our reality would change in accordance to what we pick. 
I don't think you understand. If God exists and knows everything, what you 'pick' was destined to happen. Meaning you don't ACTUALLY make a choice, though it feels like it from your perspective.
Oh I got that part. Alpha was talking about how God is omniscient yet we have freedom of choice. So if what he was saying is "true," aren't alternate realities the only way it'd work?


Free Will is an Illusion

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Oh I got that part. Alpha was talking about how God is omniscient yet we have freedom of choice. So if what he was saying is "true," aren't alternate realities the only way it'd work?
Oh, alright. I don't bother debating with him, given the blatant satire and all. I'm curious to know what he really thinks on things, though.


Free Will is an Illusion

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"MikhailTal" wrote:

Oh I got that part. Alpha was talking about how God is omniscient yet we have freedom of choice. So if what he was saying is "true," aren't alternate realities the only way it'd work?
Oh, alright. I don't bother debating with him, given the blatant satire and all. I'm curious to know what he really thinks on things, though.
I don't bother debating with him, either. He's just so ... vain? Yeah, that's the word... I think. Frustrated

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Free Will is an Illusion

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Take off the robe! Lets get to bashing butts! As well as, Deez nuts. But seriously. If there honestly is a God, He clearly doesn't want you to have free will. I guess it came in the full-time life package Christians have seemed to pay for with their intelligence. The first book in the bible clearly states this.. Absolute knowledge is like the lack of free will. Everything's just not understandable. Itd take all the goody good stuff out of life, I guess your sense of self as well. Itd take away that happiness or will to live. That doesn't sound very Free will to me. Then again, I would eat a bowl of dead mice any day.  GOD CREATED SOME PEOPLE TO GO TO HELL, SO WHAT? LOLOL JESUS

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