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Prove to me gay marriage is wrong

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Posted about 4 years ago

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Alpha, please explain to me how. Have you gone back 2000 years and compared the present and past bibles? Where, exactly, have you learned that it hasn't been altered?
The Dead Sea Scrolls, and many Papyrus Originals have been found. Duh.

Oh, so, you've read the originals? How were you able to read the actual originals?
I don't have to. Other Archeologists have.


You met them? Or you looked on the Internet?
I read articles from both answersingenesis and noanswersingenesis that both said original writings of The Bible are 98% consistent as well as found originally in 1942 in The Dead Sea Scroll list.

Figures, you believe the Internet.

and lolimaguy
If the Internet says that The Earth is spherical...then is it wrong to believe it? lolididntsayyouwern't.


Actually, no, because that's common sense, you read two articles saying that the bible hasn't changed or altered.

lolyoucalledmeashe
noanswersingenesis is an ANTI BIBLICAL site, even it says what I am saying. Everyone knows that original manuscripts were found in DSS, even ask Skittelz.

Look, your opinions have been pretty strong and I'm not disagreeing with you, but you can't just simply give a few examples of something and believe its true, besides, the actual bible was probably not even real facts in the first place, it's just that anything, even those examples you gave, could be altered.

H3H3H3H3 >:]


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Posted about 4 years ago

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Alpha, please explain to me how. Have you gone back 2000 years and compared the present and past bibles? Where, exactly, have you learned that it hasn't been altered?
The Dead Sea Scrolls, and many Papyrus Originals have been found. Duh.

Oh, so, you've read the originals? How were you able to read the actual originals?
I don't have to. Other Archeologists have.


You met them? Or you looked on the Internet?
I read articles from both answersingenesis and noanswersingenesis that both said original writings of The Bible are 98% consistent as well as found originally in 1942 in The Dead Sea Scroll list.

Figures, you believe the Internet.

and lolimaguy
If the Internet says that The Earth is spherical...then is it wrong to believe it? lolididntsayyouwern't.


Actually, no, because that's common sense, you read two articles saying that the bible hasn't changed or altered.

lolyoucalledmeashe
noanswersingenesis is an ANTI BIBLICAL site, even it says what I am saying. Everyone knows that original manuscripts were found in DSS, even ask Skittelz.

Look, your opinions have been pretty strong and I'm not disagreeing with you, but you can't just simply give a few examples of something and believe its true, besides, the actual bible was probably not even real facts in the first place, it's just that anything, even those examples you gave, could be altered.
Seeing as though they are written by The Original Authors "Paul, Thomas, Peter" I can't say they were altered.


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Posted about 4 years ago

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FYI yes it is,to me. Evryone should be following god. Do you, know how your her, god. You know why youre on this earth god, gay.marriage is wrong. We arent suppose to marry our own gender. Its.not the way God demands!!!!


If you don't want to marry someone of your own gender, then don't. 

But people who do want to should be able to. Your religion is just one religion amongst many. It shouldn't have any influence on the laws that effect the rights of people of every religion. 
I believe they should have the right of civil union, but not being married by a pastor or rabbi or even a Sensei.


Holy matrimony and state marriage are two different things. There are already churches that perform marriages for gay couples, and since that's up to each individual church/pastor, I doubt that'll change anytime soon. I'm talking about the legal side of it, the stuff like hospital visitation rights, tax write-offs, housing rules, and a bunch of other stuff.

Also, the idea of marriage predates Christianity, and should not be defined by Christianity or any religion. I don't see why gays need their own term for their marriage. It's just another form of discrimination. Another way of saying blacks can drink from water fountains, they just have to drink from different water fountains. 
Its wrong for a church to wed gay people. That's mainbase ground zero fact. You're contributing against The Bible. It's not discrimination also, its wrong, you shouldn't do it, and you fight against bad things. It's a sin to lie, thus, you should stop from lying as best you can and teach others not to lie. Get it? Gay people are humans too, they should have civil union just like any other human, but when it comes to God and Marriage and being wed under God, that's when I disagree with it.


I don't care whether it's wrong or not, it's already happening. And like I said, it will probably continue to. 

It might be immoral to lie (in most cases), but it's not illegal. You might think gay marriage is immoral, but you shouldn't think that it should be illegal. 

They are humans, American citizens, and that's why they should be able to get married not under your god, but under the state. Just like any other American. Calling it something else is discrimination. The straight people can get married, the gay people get civil unions. The white people get this water fountain, the black people get that one over there. Just swapping out terms and eras.
Well, I do care about things being wrong, the only difference. Okay let me take this from a diff. approach. All sin is equal, so stealing would be appropriate in this and is also illegal. I do believe in civil union, but Never EVER under God. Look, is it wrong for many reasons, and it is not discrimination.


I don't care about the morality of a couple's private decision to take the next step in their relationship to marriage because it has no effect on me whatsoever. It is none of my business. It is also none of your or the churches business. 

All sin might be equal, but we can't just insert Christianity into state law. And again, the idea of marriage predates Christianity, and because of this neither Christianity or the Christian idea of marriage should get reserves on the term "Marriage". Your claims to this are based in religion, not law. What if it were proposed that only gays can have marriages, and straights can have civil unions? Would that be discrimination? Of course. Or, what if same-race couples can get married, but interracial couples can only get civil unions? This really is just another kind of discrimination.

State marriage, which is not under your God or any god, should be defined by state principles. For this, we should look to the preamble of the Declaration of Independence. 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I think this is pretty clear. We are all equal here. We should all have the same rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Marriage is an action that two people who love each other take to pursue those goals. 

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Posted about 4 years ago
Samuel Clemens used the name of Mark Twain to publish.
How do I know if Paul is not really Jeff Kinney?


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Posted about 4 years ago

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FYI yes it is,to me. Evryone should be following god. Do you, know how your her, god. You know why youre on this earth god, gay.marriage is wrong. We arent suppose to marry our own gender. Its.not the way God demands!!!!


If you don't want to marry someone of your own gender, then don't. 

But people who do want to should be able to. Your religion is just one religion amongst many. It shouldn't have any influence on the laws that effect the rights of people of every religion. 
I believe they should have the right of civil union, but not being married by a pastor or rabbi or even a Sensei.


Holy matrimony and state marriage are two different things. There are already churches that perform marriages for gay couples, and since that's up to each individual church/pastor, I doubt that'll change anytime soon. I'm talking about the legal side of it, the stuff like hospital visitation rights, tax write-offs, housing rules, and a bunch of other stuff.

Also, the idea of marriage predates Christianity, and should not be defined by Christianity or any religion. I don't see why gays need their own term for their marriage. It's just another form of discrimination. Another way of saying blacks can drink from water fountains, they just have to drink from different water fountains. 
Its wrong for a church to wed gay people. That's mainbase ground zero fact. You're contributing against The Bible. It's not discrimination also, its wrong, you shouldn't do it, and you fight against bad things. It's a sin to lie, thus, you should stop from lying as best you can and teach others not to lie. Get it? Gay people are humans too, they should have civil union just like any other human, but when it comes to God and Marriage and being wed under God, that's when I disagree with it.


I don't care whether it's wrong or not, it's already happening. And like I said, it will probably continue to. 

It might be immoral to lie (in most cases), but it's not illegal. You might think gay marriage is immoral, but you shouldn't think that it should be illegal. 

They are humans, American citizens, and that's why they should be able to get married not under your god, but under the state. Just like any other American. Calling it something else is discrimination. The straight people can get married, the gay people get civil unions. The white people get this water fountain, the black people get that one over there. Just swapping out terms and eras.
Well, I do care about things being wrong, the only difference. Okay let me take this from a diff. approach. All sin is equal, so stealing would be appropriate in this and is also illegal. I do believe in civil union, but Never EVER under God. Look, is it wrong for many reasons, and it is not discrimination.


I don't care about the morality of a couple's private decision to take the next step in their relationship to marriage because it has no effect on me whatsoever. It is none of my business. It is also none of your or the churches business. 

All sin might be equal, but we can't just insert Christianity into state law. And again, the idea of marriage predates Christianity, and because of this neither Christianity or the Christian idea of marriage should get reserves on the term "Marriage". Your claims to this are based in religion, not law. What if it were proposed that only gays can have marriages, and straights can have civil unions? Would that be discrimination? Of course. Or, what if same-race couples can get married, but interracial couples can only get civil unions? This really is just another kind of discrimination.

State marriage, which is not under your God or any god, should be defined by state principles. For this, we should look to the preamble of the Declaration of Independence. 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I think this is pretty clear. We are all equal here. We should all have the same rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Marriage is an action that two people who love each other take to pursue those goals. 
I admire your passion for long posts. First of all, Its not my business. Its God's. I'm simply trying to follow God and his teachings. I'm not saying we insert any religion to state law. I say, they get the right of civil union, but you should not bring a sinful relationship to The Church. Okay, put it like this...if you rob a bank, is it fair to be let go because some Joe Schmo didn't rob a bank and he is not sentenced to prison? Can you argue discrimination? No, because that person robbed a bank, and he is in prison, the person who did not, does not go to prison.  I kind of summed up the whole declaration deal with Vertigo.


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Posted about 4 years ago
Let me remind you all that in the Bible it also says that it is a sin to cut your hair, a sin to mate different animals, a sin to wear different kinds ## ##### in one piece ## ########, and a sin to plant different kinds of seed in a field.

Before you start quoting the Bible, make sure you know what else is in there. Liking the same gender is just the same as lying, which everyone does daily. 

Being gay doesn't make you a devil child. 


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Posted about 4 years ago
for the love of god all of you stop posting

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Posted about 4 years ago

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Samuel Clemens used the name of Mark Twain to publish.

How do I know if Paul is not really Jeff Kinney?
Because they didn't have video games back then.


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Posted about 4 years ago

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for the love of god all of you stop posting

Banano just unsubscribe to the thread.


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Posted about 4 years ago

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Let me remind you all that in the Bible it also says that it is a sin to cut your hair, a sin to mate different animals, a sin to wear different kinds ## #####, and a sin to plant different kinds of seed in a field.


Before you start quoting the Bible, make sure you know what else is in there. Liking the same ### is just the same as lying, which everyone does daily. 


Being gay doesn't make you a devil child. 
Levitican Laws, New covenant changed some stuff.


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