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Prove to me gay marriage is wrong

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Posted almost 4 years ago
Why is it wrong? God says it should only be between a man and a woman, for health/unity reasons. I'm sorry if it doesn't fit your stipulations, but that's the actual answer.


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"AlphaT" wrote:

Why is it wrong? God says it should only be between a man and a woman, for health/unity reasons. I'm sorry if it doesn't fit your stipulations, but that's the actual answer.


Let's ignore the fact that religion is a chauvinist organization which has the predispositions of a schoolyard bully, "Anyone who's different than me needs to be punished!" The rules/conditions listed were so we could have an intelligent debate. As you can tell by the comment made by *$*Dezzie Love Ya*$*, when religion is introduced into a topic such as this, things get irrational.
Another reason I said no religious reasons is because that type of bias is aberrant in a person with an open mind.

The disconcerting thing is that some of these children feel so strongly about why gays shouldn't be married and unhappy. As I sit here and think about things, life included, I wonder what makes people so frightened about people unlike themselves. Is it the unknown?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among those are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness-" The Declaration of Independence.


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"Vertigo" wrote:



"AlphaT" wrote:


Why is it wrong? God says it should only be between a man and a woman, for health/unity reasons. I'm sorry if it doesn't fit your stipulations, but that's the actual answer.


Let's ignore the fact that religion is a chauvinist organization which has the predispositions of a schoolyard bully, "Anyone who's different than me needs to be punished!" The rules/conditions listed were so we could have an intelligent debate. As you can tell by the comment made by *$*Dezzie Love Ya*$*, when religion is introduced into a topic such as this, things get irrational.
Another reason I said no religious reasons is because that type of bias is aberrant in a person with an open mind.

The disconcerting thing is that some of these children feel so strongly about why gays shouldn't be married and unhappy. As I sit here and think about things, life included, I wonder what makes people so frightened about people unlike themselves. Is it the unknown?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among those are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness-" The Declaration of Independence.
I agree about the religion part, though it was expressed a little on the.....Dogmatic Extremist part shall we say? I understand why you put the stips into the debate, but it's like me saying "Give me Evidence For Gravity without using science or a keyboard" Your taking away the logical reason for the answer. But I get it, you think it takes away a knowledgeable answer....but however, its not just like God said it was ew and threw it out as a sin....he had reasons. Thus giving the possibility of a knowledgeable debate. Also, Its not a frightening thing, its just sin.  We believe they should have all apparent rights, including those to civil union even...but when Marriage goes from its legal context to its spiritual meaning, then that is what we are against. They have the free will to live, Vote and serve in the Military, and own property....I don't see how the Deceleration fits into this. Specifically, this "Creator" in the text speaks out against homosexual marriage.


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Posted almost 4 years ago

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I can't; because there's nothing wrong with it at all.

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Posted almost 4 years ago
The way I feel it Is that only God should judge or "punish" those who like the same gender. We as people should just leave it alone its not like they do criminal things they just want to have the same chance of freedom that everyone has like marrige. But I don't care if they do allow it cuz it doesn't affect me or anyone else. And you guys should not care either. Name 1 reason why they can't marry a very good 1.

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Posted almost 4 years ago




"AlphaT" wrote:




I agree about the religion part, though it was expressed a little on the.....Dogmatic Extremist part shall we say? I understand why you put the stips into the debate, but it's like me saying "Give me Evidence For Gravity without using science or a keyboard" Your taking away the logical reason for the answer. But I get it, you think it takes away a knowledgeable answer....but however, its not just like God said it was ew and threw it out as a sin....he had reasons. Thus giving the possibility of a knowledgeable debate. Also, Its not a frightening thing, its just sin.  We believe they should have all apparent rights, including those to civil union even...but when Marriage goes from its legal context to its spiritual meaning, then that is what we are against. They have the free will to live, Vote and serve in the Military, and own property....I don't see how the Deceleration fits into this. Specifically, this "Creator" in the text speaks out against homosexual marriage.


The only difference for your gravity argument is I could drop an apple from the leaning tower of Pisa, and it would fall. Also, science has been proven to be reliable time and time again, whereas religion is a matter of opinion, but I digress.

If you believe that God has a plan for everyone, then you believe that he made Gay people. Why would he make them? Hell's got some extra space? If God is setting these people up to fail, that doesn't seem very fair. You could say, "He's testing their faith in him!" but that's like saying, "He's testing their faith by making them Asian," That's something unalterable.

If you truly believe in God, then you believe that he will deal with sinners by making them spend eternity in Hell. If God truly has a beef with Gays getting married, then he'll deal with them when the time comes. Why must Man do God's work for him? Let the poor guys be happy while on Earth, they've got an eternity to suffer.

The Declaration fits into the legal issue of this debate quite well. If the pursuit of happiness is our unalienable right, then any man, woman, or child, be they black or white, gay or straight, deserves to be happy. The "Creator" may speak out against gays getting married, but he made everyone with a plan in mind. And if there's one thing you've taught me over our debating history, is that God works in mysterious ways.


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among those are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness-" The Declaration of Independence.


All men are created equal = all white, landowning men are equal.

“Mutual caring relationships require kindness and patience, tolerance, optimism, joy in the other's achievements, confidence in oneself, and the ability to give without undue thought of gain.”


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Zachary-" wrote:



"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among those are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness-" The Declaration of Independence.


All men are created equal = all white, landowning men are equal.


Truer words were never spoken.


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Posted almost 4 years ago
If only the government could just get a mob of people who think that gay marriage is completely fine because it would be so much easier to just skip to the truth than gursngo. 

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Kat-" wrote:

If only the government could just get a mob of people who think that gay marriage is completely fine because it would be so much easier to just skip to the truth than gursngo. 


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Did you just insinuate that our Government is capable of getting stuff done?


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