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Prove to me gay marriage is wrong

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Posted almost 4 years ago

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And by the way, I met Jesus yesterday. He showed me to my table at a restaurant.


and this part makes everything worthwhile

GOOD DAY TO YOU


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Kat-" wrote:

"Vertigo" wrote:



And by the way, I met Jesus yesterday. He showed me to my table at a restaurant.


and this part makes everything worthwhile


 Angel


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Posted almost 4 years ago
Its wrong cuz like youre not thankful enough to God. I mean God made two genders: male and female. So if theres gay marriage what female supposed to be 0.0

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Bro-Alex-" wrote:

Its wrong cuz like youre not thankful enough to God. I mean God made two genders: male and female. So if theres gay marriage what female supposed to be 0.0



..Lesbians tend to marry other lesbians. And by the way, religious reasons are not accepted or allowed on this board.

AlphaT is the exception to the rule, because we go back a ways.


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Bro-Alex-" wrote:

Its wrong cuz like youre not thankful enough to God.


I'm pretty sure that no matter your sexuality that you're going to be thankful to God if you believe in him. 

I mean God made two genders: male and female.


*Sure, if you believe that God made us then yes.*

Two genders were created, but that does not give people the right to judge or say that marriage to those of the same gender is morally wrong. Why even is it wrong? I personally don't see a problem, and I'm sure that it's not causing any harm to anybody. Love is love, straight or gay and there should be no rule or "law" against it.



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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Kat-" wrote:

Love is love, straight or gay and there should be no rule or "law" against it.


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Posted almost 4 years ago
If two men love each other then everyone should just accept that. My sisters two best friends which are girls are dating, and everybody deals with it.

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Posted almost 4 years ago

"Vertigo" wrote:



"AlphaT" wrote:


Exactly, now...take away all experimentation, science, and fact, and prove gravity exists. You can't because you took away exactly what proves it, I'm trying to get you to see your stipulation is taking away the AUCTAUL reason for why it is wrong.


So basically, prove to you gravity exists without actually doing anything?
Comparing gravity to the problems with gay marriage is like comparing sunglasses and doors. The two are completely different, and therefore have no factual relevance to each other.

Besides... if I punched you in the head, you'd fall to the ground. Gravity... boom.
K. First of all good luck trying to punch me. In the 8th realm of fictionland, say you could and perhaps the possibility is there of you punching me, and say somehow I did fall...then there is only one way to explain why to explain me falling....science. If you see me fall, your invisible pet crocoduck could be forcing me to the floor if you based it on what you see. And yes, they are comparable, not the objects themselves, but by how they are proven/disproven. Taking God out of the explanation of Anti-Gay Marriage is like taking science out of the explanation of Gravity.  Boom.



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So, when God created....Al Capone, God's plan was for him to murder people, expand gangs and get arrested for tax evasion? Yes, God creates people...but their choices make them make their own path, and when not in align with God, they can go off their path. So no, God is not setting people to fail, they are created, they choose to do right or wrong.  Think about this, if God has a 'beef' with sinners, which is all of us, then why does he intervene at all if they are going to this eternal place? That's like saying "Hitler is going to lose the war anyway, why should we stop him from committing the holocaust?" How many lives and sins can be saved by people who God works through?


Excuse me, but I was taught that God has a plan for all of us. That every person is a piece in an incomprehensible puzzle designed by the omnipotent creator. So you're telling me, that Al Capone had a stronger will than God?

...I'm failing to see the logic behind the allusion to Hitler.
You're telling me, that letting two guys get married, is equivalent to one man cooking millions of people in ovens?

Okay then.

He does have a plan for all of us. But its not fate or destiny. God has a path for you, truthfully no one can follow their paths perfectly, but we choose weather or not to listen to God for guidance, and we make our own decisions. You have a path, you either choose to follow it to the best of your ability, or not. No, I'm saying that your little "God should let us do what we want since we're going to hell anyway" thing is not right. "Hitler's going to lose the war" as to "They are going down anyway" and "So why stop him from the holocaust?" as to "So why not let them live out their lives as they see fit?" Why should we interfere? Because even though this Earth is temporary, we are called to out rule the bad and express the good.


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About the Deceleration...it all depends on what makes you happy...this creator endowed these rights, but this same creator says that it is an abomination to marry of the same type. Same thing with robbery, should you pursue robbery if it makes you happy? No, because not only does the creator who endowed the right forbid it, it has a negative effect on the public. Yeah, God works in mysterious ways...I even saw that firsthand today.


I understand the robbery bit, and I agree. That's why we have laws.
The difference is, gay people don't wish to commit a crime when they're getting married.

Do you understand the real difference between gays and straights?
One line of code in our DNA.
In that incredible twisting ladder, there is a gene that determines whether you like guys or girls. That gene, if there is a god, was put there on purpose.
Now why would he do that?
"He's testing their faith!"
It'd be pretty hard to have faith in a god who set you up for teasing, physical abuse, and unequal treatment for your whole life eh?
Yes, laws like Prop 8. Weather you wish to or not, its still A. Wrong. and B. Against the law. Also, about the genes...From Hamer, to LeVay, to Bailey and Pillard...they cannot give credible evidence that you are 'made homosexual' Sure, people can be socially and biologically effected to one day become homosexual, but that even goes for drinking. Either way, it is not an excuse, they both must act upon what they are feeling, and they are both accountable by the law. 
 


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Posted almost 4 years ago

"-Bro-Alex-" wrote:

Its wrong cuz like youre not thankful enough to God. I mean God made two genders: male and female. So if theres gay marriage what female supposed to be 0.0
Their shopping partners! Here, hold my purse.

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I Support Equal Rights  


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Posted almost 4 years ago


"AlphaT" wrote:


K. First of all good luck trying to punch me. In the 8th realm of fictionland, say you could and perhaps the possibility is there of you punching me, and say somehow I did fall...then there is only one way to explain why to explain me falling....science. If you see me fall, your invisible pet crocoduck could be forcing me to the floor if you based it on what you see. And yes, they are comparable, not the objects themselves, but by how they are proven/disproven. Taking God out of the explanation of Anti-Gay Marriage is like taking science out of the explanation of Gravity.  Boom.




Stepping out of "fictionland," guess what's holding you to the ground? Guess why you're not sailing into the mesosphere? Gravity.


So somehow, taking science, a trusted and intelligent institution which is accepted by nearly 100% of everyone, out of gravity is like taking God, a non-proven character in a story, which is accepted by 50% of everyone, out of anti-gay marriage debates?


 


Okay then.




"AlphaT" wrote:


He does have a plan for all of us. But its not fate or destiny. God has a path for you, truthfully no one can follow their paths perfectly, but we choose weather or not to listen to God for guidance, and we make our own decisions. You have a path, you either choose to follow it to the best of your ability, or not. No, I'm saying that your little "God should let us do what we want since we're going to hell anyway" thing is not right. "Hitler's going to lose the war" as to "They are going down anyway" and "So why stop him from the holocaust?" as to "So why not let them live out their lives as they see fit?" Why should we interfere? Because even though this Earth is temporary, we are called to out rule the bad and express the good.




So, the path laid out for me by God is just a measly suggestion? Wow, I thought the creator could do better.


We didn't stop Hitler on a religious level. Nobody ever said, "Let's get him! It's what God would want!" We did it from a moral standpoint. Hitler once wrote, " In resisting the Jew, I am defending the handiwork of the lord."


 


"AlphaT" wrote:


Yes, laws like Prop 8. Weather you wish to or not, its still A. Wrong. and B. Against the law. Also, about the genes...From Hamer, to LeVay, to Bailey and Pillard...they cannot give credible evidence that you are 'made homosexual' Sure, people can be socially and biologically effected to one day become homosexual, but that even goes for drinking. Either way, it is not an excuse, they both must act upon what they are feeling, and they are both accountable by the law.


Whether or not they can prove that there's a gay gene or not, something, whether in life or before birth, makes you gay. It's not something you control and can turn on and off. It's the same as being Black, that's not something you chose to be, it was "bestowed" upon you. So being gay is the same as being drank* out of your mind? I'm pretty sure no amount of drinking could make me say, "Heyyy.. he's a pretty man."
You? Maybe.


*Had to say drank cause of the filters. You get it though.


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