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"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:



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Its depends on your religion. Some people believe in God, and not Jesus. Others Believe in Jesus not God. Some believe in both! I believe in both. But ill never try to change people image on God or Jesus, its there own belief!  God is there. He doesnt help with all that so we can learn! If he helped us with everything, life wouldnt be the same.   Frustrated But trust me hes there. smile


And then you get people like me who don't believe in either God, or Jesus, or any religion at all. 
Feeling left out?


Everybody knows about Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and whatever else. 

People seem to forget that some people don't believe in any god. When we don't get left out, we're often not mentioned in a positive light. 
1 John 1:5


Catch 22, page 55;

"There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions."





...Okay?


Posted over 4 years ago

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"AlphaT" wrote:









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Its depends on your religion. Some people believe in God, and not Jesus. Others Believe in Jesus not God. Some believe in both! I believe in both. But ill never try to change people image on God or Jesus, its there own belief!  God is there. He doesnt help with all that so we can learn! If he helped us with everything, life wouldnt be the same.   Frustrated But trust me hes there. smile


And then you get people like me who don't believe in either God, or Jesus, or any religion at all. 
Feeling left out?


Everybody knows about Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and whatever else. 

People seem to forget that some people don't believe in any god. When we don't get left out, we're often not mentioned in a positive light. 
1 John 1:5


Catch 22, page 55;

"There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions."




 
...Okay?


You get 5 imaginary internet points if you see the metaphor I'm making. 


Posted over 4 years ago

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"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:



"AlphaT" wrote:






"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:









"AlphaT" wrote:












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Its depends on your religion. Some people believe in God, and not Jesus. Others Believe in Jesus not God. Some believe in both! I believe in both. But ill never try to change people image on God or Jesus, its there own belief!  God is there. He doesnt help with all that so we can learn! If he helped us with everything, life wouldnt be the same.   Frustrated But trust me hes there. smile


And then you get people like me who don't believe in either God, or Jesus, or any religion at all. 
Feeling left out?


Everybody knows about Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and whatever else. 

People seem to forget that some people don't believe in any god. When we don't get left out, we're often not mentioned in a positive light. 
1 John 1:5


Catch 22, page 55;

"There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions."




 
...Okay?


You get 5 imaginary internet points if you see the metaphor I'm making. 
Proverbs 26:4


Posted over 4 years ago

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A chihuahua looks hardly anything like a great dane, and they are closely related. It's not even a requirement, just makes it more likely. Louisiana, and a boot, are two completely different kinds of things. It's not even a good analogy. Two organisms that look very similar, are probably very similar. I would love to see you name two organisms that look extremely similar that aren't similar genetically. 







Figure out what genus humans are. It's what comes before "sapiens". I predicted that you'd be able to figure it out based on the fact it would get censored. Come on, try a little harder.






It isn't at all. We can see the leaps and bounds humanity can take in a short amount of time within our documented history, and how big changes can be when they do happen. We also see how long it can take us to make these changes happen. Why couldn't it have taken that much time?






If the universe doesn't have an age, it would be eternal, right? I'm assuming by no you age you mean no beginning and no end. What was God doing for eternity before he decided to make us? Just, floating? 





 
First thing..I was talking about their DNA looking alike. Second, they are artificially mutated. Third, they're both mammals, both have fur, both have ears, both bark, both can run, both have paws, both have relatively the same bone structure, both have a good sense of smell, both have a mouth two eyes and a nose, both can be loyal, both have a brain a heart and a stomach. Both are man's best friend, both can be included to pageants, and both aren't allowed in most hotels. Shall I continue?


The word means "same".

Our history after this supposed evolutionary jumpstart giving us the sentience of civilization. I'm talking about how it just impacted so quickly, without any environmental explanation.

I said no definitive age. Given that time exists within the boundaries of matter. If our Universe is constantly expanding at the speed of light, thee is ultimately more matter being created and therefore time is always shifting. Also, its hard to even think of something before time...as we naturally have a mindset of time. So God never really decided to create us, rather we are created. "Before Abraham was I AM"


Right. You can see that two animals that don't look anything like each other but share common characteristics are related, but can't see that two animals who do look very much like one another, and share common characteristics are closely related? 

There you go.

We can see that these changes do impact very quickly, with little to no environmental explanation. There's no reason to suggest they need it. But, off the top of my head, 10,000 years ago things were starting to warm up. We started into the interglacial period that we're in now. That could have impacted us. 

If it had a definite beginning, then from that beginning point in time to now, there would be some finite measurable distance. To not have that means to not have a definite beginning, or no beginning at all. So God had nothing to do with it and I've been right all along? 
DNA. Im not going to spend ten minutes listing characteristics but our DNA is all relative.

So because that's what the word means, that's what happened? In other words, it happened because you say you happened.

Evolution doesn't work like that. Sure, if a curveball is thrown then the species will undergo a full system reset, in that category are bees; but the advancement itself....never recorded or argued.

We had a definite beginning....however distance is MOSTLY irrelevant here. Don't you think that with more matter, that time itself would have to be reengineered?


I don't see how DNA is relative. I see it as objective. 
 
No, not because of the name choice. Animals are put in the same genus when they're determined to be related. We know that modern humans are related to other species in our genus that are now extinct. That's why we're all in the same genus. We are also in the same family (category superseding genus) as the other apes because we're distantly related, but not anywhere nearly as close.  

I don't see the development of civilization as a part of biological evolution, rather it's a part of human social evolution. The advancements aren't recorded because we didn't record yet. There are plenty of things that were never recorded at the time they happened but we can determine to have happened nonetheless, and even when they happened. 

That depends on how you see time, I suppose. I don't see it as a requirement. 


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"AlphaT" wrote:



"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:






"AlphaT" wrote:









"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:












"AlphaT" wrote:















"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:


















"AlphaT" wrote:





















"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:
























"nicolemarie" wrote:
















Its depends on your religion. Some people believe in God, and not Jesus. Others Believe in Jesus not God. Some believe in both! I believe in both. But ill never try to change people image on God or Jesus, its there own belief!  God is there. He doesnt help with all that so we can learn! If he helped us with everything, life wouldnt be the same.   Frustrated But trust me hes there. smile


And then you get people like me who don't believe in either God, or Jesus, or any religion at all. 
Feeling left out?


Everybody knows about Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and whatever else. 

People seem to forget that some people don't believe in any god. When we don't get left out, we're often not mentioned in a positive light. 
1 John 1:5


Catch 22, page 55;

"There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions."




 
...Okay?


You get 5 imaginary internet points if you see the metaphor I'm making. 
Proverbs 26:4


Not exactly what I would have quoted if I wanted the person I was debating with to keep debating with me. 


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"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:



"AlphaT" wrote:






"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:









"AlphaT" wrote:












"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:















"AlphaT" wrote:


















"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:





















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"Teh_Skittlez" wrote:



























"nicolemarie" wrote:


















Its depends on your religion. Some people believe in God, and not Jesus. Others Believe in Jesus not God. Some believe in both! I believe in both. But ill never try to change people image on God or Jesus, its there own belief!  God is there. He doesnt help with all that so we can learn! If he helped us with everything, life wouldnt be the same.   Frustrated But trust me hes there. smile


And then you get people like me who don't believe in either God, or Jesus, or any religion at all. 
Feeling left out?


Everybody knows about Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and whatever else. 

People seem to forget that some people don't believe in any god. When we don't get left out, we're often not mentioned in a positive light. 
1 John 1:5


Catch 22, page 55;

"There was only one catch, and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions."




 
...Okay?


You get 5 imaginary internet points if you see the metaphor I'm making. 
Proverbs 26:4


Not exactly what I would have quoted if I wanted the person I was debating with to keep debating with me. 
It's the truth. The truth shall set you free.


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I don't see how DNA is relative. I see it as objective. 

 

No, not because of the name choice. Animals are put in the same genus when they're determined to be related. We know that modern humans are related to other species in our genus that are now extinct. That's why we're all in the same genus. We are also in the same family (category superseding genus) as the other apes because we're distantly related, but not anywhere nearly as close.  


I don't see the development of civilization as a part of biological evolution, rather it's a part of human social evolution. The advancements aren't recorded because we didn't record yet. There are plenty of things that were never recorded at the time they happened but we can determine to have happened nonetheless, and even when they happened. 


That depends on how you see time, I suppose. I don't see it as a requirement. 

The main focus here is how they relate genetically, true?

We're not animals.

So you believe there are more types of evolution? That seems like Hovindism to me. I meant like we have never recorded a time where the lifting of a certain deterrent increased growth.

It's no a requirement, only when matter is present. Einstein was a founding father in that science.





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We're not animals.


Now it's here forever. 

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...


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"AlphaT" wrote:


We're not animals.


Now it's here forever. 
We have reached a level of sentience that no other animal has. Not through evolution...we can debate that for three hours and prove it wrong but as for right now, Im ruling that out as a factor.


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